Husband/Wife jailed for saying Clinton Sucks
pjb at ny.ubs.com
pjb at ny.ubs.com
Thu Aug 22 15:13:42 PDT 1996
jimmy carter proved that we anyone could be president, and it looks
like clinton is proving that we don't really need a president.
-paul
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> To: Brian Davis <bdavis at thepoint.net>
> From: jim bell <jimbell at pacifier.com>
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> At 02:47 PM 8/21/96 -0400, Brian Davis wrote:
> >On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 Scottauge at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Rush Limbaugh reports:
> >>
> >> That a husband and wife are being jailed for yelling to Clinton "You Suck".
> >>
> >> The Secret Service states additional words (yet un-uttered to the rest of
> us)
> >> were mentioned that they deemed threatening.
> >
> >
> >"I hope you die."
>
> Doesn't sound much like a "threat" to me.
>
> > And the couple was arrestd for disorderly conduct by
> >Chicago police.
>
> It sounds to me like the Chicops were just showing their "loyalty" by
> sitting on somebody, not that they believed any real crime had been committed.
>
> > Any possible federal charges for threatening a president
> >in violation of 18 U.S.C. Section 871 await a determination of the
> >seriousness of the statement, in context with the wife's conduct, by
> >prosecutors. I predict no action.
>
> But it isn't even a "threat", regardless of how "serious" it was. The "I
> hope you die" part is, presumably, a statement of fact: She did, indeed,
> hope he dies. But I don't see how hoping this can be considered a threat,
> or even SAYING she's hoping this is, likewise.
>
>
> Makes me wonder whether visiting one of these appearances with a "Clinton
> Doll" and a bunch of pins, and visibly inserting those pins into the doll
> (while uttering various strange incantations), would constitute a "threat."
>
> Frankly, I'd rather have a president who didn't feel the need to be
> protected by thugs.
>
> Jim Bell
> jimbell at pacifier.com
>
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