Jim Bell among the Heathen

[Karl]

On 10/11/21, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:09:51 -0400
> Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/11/21, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:41:29 -0400
>> > Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> When you think of Jim Bell you're really, really angry?
>> >
>> > 	Come on Karl. The turd is just putting a show, complaining about people
>> > not
>> > being 'cypherpunks', while pretending that a US govt nazi like him is
>> > the
>> > True Cypherpunk Anarchist.
>>
>> When you think of profrat, you feel disinterested, exasperated, angry?
>
>
> 	I delete 97% of his messages. I don't think much about him, but when I do,
> I actually think about the other subscribers to the list.

I guess I do too.  Do you worry?

>> > 	He said that bell, who is a piece of pfizer shit and technofascist
>> > scumbag
>> > to the core was an 'anti vaxer'. The turd just says random stuff
>> > pretending
>> > to be 'really really angry'. The other thing he posts is of course
>> > chemically pure govcorp propaganda, as per his job description.
>>
>> You're pretty confident about profrat?
>
>
> 	yes. He is evil. The details don't matter much.

How does the idea of protecting people from evil land?

>> >> I'm trying to understand what you're needing here,
>> >
>> > 	he needs killing.
>>
>> You're very angry and need us protected from him?
>
> 	He needs killing as a matter of justice.

So what's important here is that what is right is upheld?

>
>> >
>> >> I'm really curious  and uncertain around this.
>> >
>> > 	lawl - you're uncertain about what the turd is and does? Please.
>>
>> I feel so regretful here.  I've disgusted you?
>
> 	Nah. I'm assuming you do have an idea of who he is, although you don't want
> to state it clearly. But it's ok.

Maybe it's hard for me to think about it.  I think I spent a long time
just feeling irritated, but I've started learning more about him.

>> > 	Talking to the turd is obviously pointless. The other thing you might
>> > try
>> > is countering his propaganda, and he might pretend to get mad, but
>> > again,
>> > it's just a show.
>>
>> Do you need to know I understand what's going on here better than I seem
>> to?
>
>
> 	I tend to think you understand better than you seem to, yes. Maybe you're
> trying your non-conflict (sorry I dont recall the actual name)
> technique/theory, and in that case my comment is that you're likely wasting
> your time.

It sounds like maybe you'd like me to know your viewpoint better than I do?

Non-conflict seems kind of hopeless to you?

Yeah, I'm trying to speak intro-NVC where you ask questions a lot, but
mostly to try to learn and remember how to just speak normally ...