Continual Violation of List Charter
juan
juan.g71 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 3 14:41:17 PDT 2016
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:14:13 -0700
"Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
> On 9/3/16 1:30 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:41:52 -0400
> > grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> [1]
> >> "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing
> >> cryptography and its effect on society."
> > incomplete, and you didn't even provide a 'source'
> >
> > plus, it's obvious that you haven't read the 1992 - ~1998
> > archives of the list.
>
> Archives? We read it in real time.
Who - the fuck - is we. My message was addressed to grarpamp. I
bet he didn't read it in real time.
>
> If it isn't directly about the access to or effects of cryptography
> and related security practices, it is off topic.
Because an absurdist like you says so.
>
> Early on, the list was largely about making sure that we had
> unfettered access to encryption and reasoning about the consequences
> of that. This was important for ecommerce, the Internet in general,
> the boundaries of the First Amendment, and as the baseline for the
> rest of the world. All kinds of power grabs were in play, directly
> from the FBI and others. A weak response might have left us in a
> position difficult to unravel. Most of that came out OK,
Exactly what a US establishment puppet woud say.
So let's see :
1992 :
"Computer technology is on the verge of providing the ability
for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with
each other in a totally anonymous manner. "
I wonder if Tim May is embarrased at having mande such a
blatantly wrong predicion.
" Interactions over networks will be untraceable, via extensive
re- routing of encrypted packets and tamper-proof boxes which
implement cryptographic protocols with nearly perfect assurance
against any tampering."
Where are such networks operating?
What we do have is completely sabotaged hardware courtesy of
Intel Inc, a criminal organization that May had something to
do, I believe.
> but there
> are always ongoing concerns and implications.
Oh...
>
> Arguing whether the end of the world is coming or whose fault it is
> or who is making political or military mistakes is all completely off
> topic.
Sure. It's especially important that the political 'mistakes' of
the american nazis be completely 'ignored'.
>
> sdw
>
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