Russia and China crack Snowden Cache
Tim Beelen
tim at diffalt.com
Wed Jun 17 16:57:35 PDT 2015
On 6/17/2015 7:19 PM, Juan wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:28:27 -0400
> Tim Beelen <tim at diffalt.com> wrote:
>
>
>> You should stop smoking lettuce. Just because you think something is
>> not a crime does not not make it not a crime.
>
> I don't smoke lettuce. My example was meant to teach you the
> basics of morality - something you seem unable to grasp.
I know you don't smoke lettuce.
> So, pay attention : human/natural rights exist PRIOR TO ANY
> FUCKING GOVERNMENT.
I concede to that point.
> Enve a retarded 'american' should know this if he bothered to
> check basic americunt propaganda like the 'declaration of
> independence'
Dude, that is racist. I think. Calling all Americans cunts. Such a big
geographical area too. North, South.
>
>
>> And I don't think
>> 'murdering people for fun' is the USMC charter.
> That's what the shitbags do, however. So what you think
> about some nonsensical 'charter' has less than zero relevance.
>
So, I happen to know a few people that are marines. They don't like
killing and are generally very agreeable. Would you like to meet one?
>> It might be your
>> observation but also generally not true for actual marines. And
>> actually not true in any sense. So. There's that.
>
> There's what? There's a neocon in this mailing list?
Basically anyone you actually get to meet and say hello to. What do you
think they are? Big bad bulky continuously angry men?
>> And the way you're talking you're probably are an anarchist. Which is
>> also a form of government directed usually by direct democracy.
> Well, at least you figured out that I'm an anarchist, although
> funnily enough you don't seem to know what anarchy is.
>
>
>> government directed usually by direct democracy.
> Nope, that's not anarchy.
Okay, lets try Bakunin, because for a guy who does not no anything about
Anarchism I sure know about him. He claims to "organize from below,
through local structures interlinked on a federalist basis". I agree
with Bakunin on this point. It also happens to be a form of direct
democracy.
Can also be considered to be a government without stretching the term in
any way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalism
Oh, crikey, federalism is a form of government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy
Oh fuck, it is mainly used by a horde of anarchist writers :D
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>>
>>> Wait, you were whining about what the russian government
>>> does, right? And on what grounds? Whatever the russian gov't
>>> does is 'legal' and 'not criminal'....because they say so!
>> It might be legal, but it's definitely not moral. Which makes it
>> criminal.
>>> See? That's your 'theory' at work. Not a very clever
>>> theory, I might add.
>>>
>> You're the inane one here. Juxtaposing random shit, yelling that all
>> governments are criminal enterprises like it means something.
>
>
> It's a basic truth, sonny. It may mean nothing to government
> worshiping psychos/neocons, but...it is still true.
Yea, all hail the state. The great provider.
>
>>
>> HUMANITY IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE BECAUSE IT'S AGENTS COMMIT CRIMES.
> No, your wrong analogy only shows that you don't know what
> you're talking about or are plainly dishonest. Or both.
No no, I'm not dishonest. It's just that you're polarizing. You can't
find an individual to blame like a proper anarchist. So you blame a
group. Like a fucking Nazi.
>
>> That obviously makes no sense because not all humans are agents that
>> commit crimes.
>> Neither do all agents of governments commit crimes.
>
>
> Yes they do, to varying degrees. They are all funded with
> stolen money for starters.
>
>
Well, that's a stretch since, well I can type my fingers raw with
anarchist examples of governments, either in literature or in actuality.
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>>>
>>>> On 6/17/2015 3:33 PM, Juan wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:53:55 -0400
>>>>> Tim Beelen <tim at diffalt.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, you have no knowledge of all the details of the CIA's
>>>>>> actions, but you are sure that they consist of violations? Is
>>>>>> that right?
>>>>> Of course. Government is a criminal organization, by
>>>>> definition.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's all you need to know about it.
>>>>>
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