Ross Ulbricht got 2xLife+40 for a Harmless Website

[Karl]

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 8:30 PM David Barrett <dbarrett at expensify.com> wrote:

>
>> For someone to say they are ok with Silk Road and what appear to be
>>> genuine attempts to hire killers, proven instances of
>>>
>>
>> ???? Did you miss my last reply?  The link you posted had to use a
>> private conversation as evidence since there was no trade records of such
>> things, and the prosecutor admitted there was no indication killers were
>> actually hired.
>>
>
> My understanding is the crime is *attempting* to have someone killed,
> whether or not it's carried out.  Everything seems to suggest he felt Blake
> Krokoff was a real person, and wanted him killed, and was offering payment
> to do so.  Thankfully whoever "Blake Krokoff" actually is did a good job
> covering his tracks, but there's no reason to think that Ulbricht didn't
> genuinely want him dead.
>

... except that ulbricht was sentenced to longer than life, and his site
would have had to have been compromised to find him, so it's highly
possible the evidence was planted by whoever didn't like him.

I haven't reviewed this evidence to tell what is real.  The document you
linked does not back up what you say.


> the sale of hard narcotics, and the
>>>
>>
>> To be clear here, the person in prison did not sell narcotics, right?
>> They provided a platform for general trade, where others sold narcotics.
>>
>
> He profited from them by taking a transaction fee, so yes, he was selling
> narcotics in every legal, moral, and semantic sense.
>

That's not the meaning of "selling" in an online anonymous marketplace, to
me.  You have different experience?

widespread platform for money laundering and tax evasion -- is kind of to
>>> say they are a
>>>
>>
>> ???? Bitcoin already exists and people are finally realising it doesn't
>> make anything private.  Ross Ulbricht didn't invent bitcoin.
>>
>
> Fair point, but he's not being imprisoned for the existence of Bitcoin.
> He's being imprisoned for selling narcotics, personally avoiding taxes, and
> attempting to have people killed.
>

Those sound like intense things, but you seem motivated to argue here and I
don't have a way to tell what is real myself.

Most onion businesses did not succeed.  Ulbricht's was one of the largest.
It doesn't seem appropriate to endanger people who ran these things any
further.

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