Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

Tom Busby tom at busby.ninja
Mon Jan 6 09:56:42 PST 2020


can i confirm that this is the Venona archive merged with the 2000-2016
archive from this post:

https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-July/042515.html

i.e. that we don't have a new, overlapping archive of the 90s period? I'm
assuming venona is still the only game in town for the 90s period.

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:54, Tom Busby <tom at busby.ninja> wrote:

> oh fantastic, thank you very much. looks great.
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 04:00, Greg Newby <gbnewby at pglaf.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Tom,
>>
>> You might be interested to see that I recently merged the archives. (I am
>> the current list operator.) You can find it browsable and a few other
>> formats. This spans September 1992-July 2013 in the cypherpunks-legacy
>> collection.
>>
>> The current (ongoing) list is in the main cypherpunks collection, from
>> 2013-present. They are both here:
>>
>>   https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
>>
>> Announcement/description:
>>
>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-December/078230.html
>>
>> Best,
>>   Greg
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 09:41:57PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
>> > I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so much is
>> > lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all together,
>> but
>> > my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto
>> > anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it lately.
>> >
>> > In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I
>> have no
>> > way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive to
>> > compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only
>> detect
>> > tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old during
>> this
>> > period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.
>> >
>> > I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring what's
>> > available so that isn't lost too.
>> >
>> > I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too many
>> > other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the 1999-onwards
>> > archive.
>> >
>> > If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell, Ryan
>> > Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on
>> Venona.
>> > That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know
>> what
>> > can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this era,
>> > because it's the most important era for sure.
>> >
>> > But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We both
>> > have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I can
>> so
>> > far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell, <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby
>> <tom at busby.ninja>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
>> > > seem to care
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it.
>> > > This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
>> > >
>> > > >If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll
>> merge
>> > > it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive.   That's a
>> > > limited view.  I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the
>> > > well-planned omissions in the archive.  From where was the data
>> obtained?
>> > > When was the faking of the data done?   Who did it?  Why?
>> > > Who had control of the Cypherpunks list during the 1995-2003 time
>> frame?
>> > > Was the data stored elsewhere, such as the Wayback Machine?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >                       Jim Bell
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt
>> Missinghttps://
>> www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jim Bell's comment:
>> > >
>> > > Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me,
>> and
>> > > any mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
>> > >
>> > > And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
>> seem
>> > > to care.  Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
>> > >
>> > > Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>
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