minion-design.pdf / low bandwidth high latency long term connections

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 10:38:55PM -0300, Punk - Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:03:59 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 06:58:57PM -0300, Punk - Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > > 
> > > 	courtesy of tor scum dingledine and matheson and a GCHQ guy, danezis who now works for facebook-NSA as well. Wait, facebook, nsa, gchq, university of london, etc so many aliases for the same mafia. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	anyway :  https://www.mixminion.net/minion-design.pdf
> > 
> > Have not begun to read that yet, 
> 
> 	there's a good deal of handwaving bullshit in there 
> 
> "The adversary can delay messages...The efficacy of this attack is poorly understood, but
> it may well be quite damaging" 
> 
> 	so they admit that their own fucking system is 'poorly understood' by their own fucking selves and may be 'quite damaged' - well I guess that's at least half honest. 
> 
> 
> "Dummy traffic is an old approach to improving anonymity, but its efficacy is still not well analyzed." 
> 
> 	oh really? 
> 
> "We need stronger intuition about how to use dummy messages."
> 
> 	...stronger...intuition...?
> 
> "While many people have speculated about the benefits of dummy traffic, we have not yet seen any  convincing analysis." 
> 	....
> 
> 
> "Exit attacks - Use the mix network to send hate mail" 
> "ISPs do not tolerate systems that potentially deliver hate mail" 
> 
> 
> 	...'hate mail'? agents of the child murdering pentagon like dingledine are worried about 'hate mail'...?
> 
> 
> 	bottom line for me is that the system is (a lot) more complex than I expected - and doesn't seem too reliable either. 
> 
> 
> 	The 'acknowledgments' section is kinda 'intersting' too....
> 
> 	cohen and 'zooko' wilcox get mentioned and..."We further thank all the unnamed cypherpunks out there who have worked on remailer issues for the past decades." 
> 
> 
> 	isn't the collaboration between 'cypherpunks' and the pentagon quite touching. 

Indeed.

covfefe net is the UDP network layer chaff fill, packet switched
network.

This is where chaff fill - those "dummy messages" mentioned above -
needs to be done, in the network layer.
The reason?  Once available, any "message" or "stream" type can layer
on top (including TCP) - the nature of a network layer of course.